The Audacity of Hyperbole
We want to get the hell over there. . . .
Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit
--General George S. Patton, Jr.
Don't worry chaps you'll
only have to do this once.
I'll have to come back and do
a dozen takes with Errol Flynn!
--David Niven, rallying his platoon
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Obama's speech at Omaha Beach was disturbing, as it was gross misunderestimation [sic] of American military involvement in WW II (Obama Hails 'Sheer Improbability' of D-Day Victory).Before the Goddamned Marines get all of the credit
--General George S. Patton, Jr.
Don't worry chaps you'll
only have to do this once.
I'll have to come back and do
a dozen takes with Errol Flynn!
--David Niven, rallying his platoon
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The allies' D-Day victory was not a "sheer improbability". As General Eisenhower wrote before the invasion, "the tide has turned":
- The Germans had weak and combat-depleted divisions in the zone of action
- Reinforcing the defense was problematic since the allies controlled the skies
- Even a simple airborne assault supplanted by naval gunfire could have established a beach or airhead
- The U.S. Army had a Theatre Army in Southern France pushing generally north and east, and were firmly controlling the pace of combat operations.
- U.S. leadership of the day did not and would not endanger an entire Theatre Army on a "sheer improbability"
- The success of the war in Europe did not hinge on a successful Normandy Invasion
- The German Army had lost the ability to fight offensively and strategically
- The German Army was defensive throughout the entire Normandy campaign. All offensive actions were local in nature
Also, D-Day was not an "unimaginable hell" as stated by Obama. D-Day was just another day at the office for the U.S. military. While there were "unimaginable hells" in that war, Normandy was not one of them. The Bataan Death March, the London Blitz, Warsaw, Stalingrad, Hamburg, Dresden -- these were Hell on earth.
Further, Obama said, "At an hour of maximum danger, amid the bleakest of circumstances, men who thought themselves ordinary found it within themselves to do the extraordinary."
Au contraire, D-Day was not amid the "bleakest circumstances". By June 1944 the war was won by the allies in both theatres. After Midway and Guadalcanal in the Pacific and Kursk and Stalingrad on the Russian front, the German Army was no longer the dominant force on the continent.
Bleak actually describes the status of the Axis powers at that historical moment. Are the President and his speechwriters that oblivious to their nation's history? Did the Department of Defense vet this palaver?
Granted, we live in a time where everything is outstanding, and everyone heroic. Pomposity like "The Audacity of Hope" works well from the pulpit or the self-help section of your local bookstore, but it is unnecessary when confronting history. The facts speak for themselves.
And Obama missed the boat with his hyperbolic, but uninformed, rhetoric.
Labels: D-Day not sheer improbability, Obama on Normandy, obama speech on D-Day
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I was a bit upset by the hypocrisy of Obama's speaches and actions. Laying flowers at former German concentration camp while he still runs secret prisons around the world. Saying the terrorist lose moral high ground by bombing innocent women and children while he sends the drones and jets to do the same in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. There doesn't seem to be allot of change when it comes to the military side of this administration.
Jim, Jim, Jim...
He's a politician. Politicians live to blow smoke up your ass like tweakers steal credit cards out of the mail and cops stop brothers for DWB. They can't help it - it's in their nature.
Do you think he could have got up there and said something like "Well, it sure was a nice little invasion but the Commie Reds had pretty much wrapped it up for us in Europe by the spring of 1944 and the real point of this while nutroll was to get to the Elbe before Joe Stalin's boys could Iron Curtain all of Central Europe on us. Sure would have been even easier if that sorry fuck Monty could have taken Caen by D+3 like he told us he could, the creeping little sack of shit."
Christ, Newt Gingrich's head would have exploded.
Wait..!
I'm never upset by politician bullshit, only by their actions.
tw,
Totally hypocritical.
Chief,
:) -- wouldn't it just be grand, though, if one time, one of them actually spoke the truth? And it could be done without disrespect, but it would require not sucking up (which would be to disown part of their legal degrees.)
Unless I misremember my history, there was no US Army in Southern France until August of '44, after the breakout from Normandy was well underway.
Aside from that, nicely done.
Mr. O,
I'm embarrassed and stand corrected, but as you said otherwise....but I'm not POTUS so please excuse my gaff.
The point as we both know is that the allies were pushing hard from the west and the Axis/Nazi powers could not stop them. Even if the Bastogne offensive were successful the Germans still would've lost. All their cards were face up and we still had hole cards.
I'm not minimizing D- Day but rather trying to put it in perspective.
Since I wear jump wings and a Ranger tab this is part of my military heritage which was initially established at Normandy.
Thanks for writing and we're always glad to hear from you.
jim
"Christ, Newt Gingrich's head would have exploded."
Can I get four tickets to that event?
Oh wait...dam, past tense...crap, I missed another political head exploding show...is there a web site I can subscribe too that will let me know about these events ahead of time?
Lou Lomell of the 2d Ranger Bn. was on Charlie Rose last night. He told about taking a round through his leg before ever getting off the landing craft, stepping off the bow ramp into a shell crater and going down with all his gear, still managed to climb the cliff, find the German guns and make two trips to spike 'em with thermite grenades.
If he's any indication, those early Rangers were some tough sonsabitches! It's a lot to try and live up to, like the WWII Marines were for me. I think I'm lucky I never had to.
Jim: I understand your tact, but as an NCO I have no shame so I'll just speak my mind; D-Day, and 99% of the ground war in the West was a sideshow. As was about 80% of the bomber war over Western Europe (the refinery bombings were the only real exception).
The bottom line for Germany was that had the Soviets not soaked up something like 2/3rds of the total German casualties - 4M out of a total loss of less than 6M - D-Day would have been at best a REAL toss-up, and at worst another Dieppe.
We like to think we were the Big Dog of WW2, but the only thing we were best at was production and naval war. Our Army was never able to meet the Germans man-to-man and tank-to-tank; even our artillery was outgunned every so often. Likewise we never matched the individual German aircraft for quality; sure, we had the numbers, and any Soviet commander would tell you that in 1944 quantity had a quality of its' own. But we were dead lucky that the German forces we met in North Africa in 1942, in Italy in 1943 and in France in 1944 were a tiny fraction of the combat power of the Wehrmacht and were normally hugely outnumbered and outmaterial-ed.
My bottom line? It's time to stop telling ourselves the Hero Story of how We Won The War In Europe. Our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines were as tough and as brave as anyone, and certainly as much as our German enemies. But the SOVIETS won the war in Europe. We just tagged along to keep Stalin our of Cologne...
Japan? Different story. But, then, the technically and tactically the Japanese Army was to us what we were to the Germans, or worse. After Midway and the Marianas, the only question was how many Americans could they killed before we destroyed them.
Gordon,
There were several things about that interview that caught my attention and deserve cmt.
-Lomell is a MOH recipient and this was never mentioned.
-The Tuskeegee retd. LTC Ace only achieved the rank of O 5. This is extremely strange since this is such a low rank for such a distinguished pilot.This in itself shows the lingering effects of rascism in the military. Desk jockies retire at that rank.
-The sign said MCGovern was in the Air Force which is incorrect.
-The civilian expert college type didn't know his ass from 2nd base.
jim
FDChief,
I ROGER your transmission and agree totally.
I've always felt that the US best c/a was to let the continent and Russia sort out their mess AND THEN go in and kick ass on the winner.
The Germans lost a million men in Russia in a 6 month period, this could not have been accomplished by the US Army fighting toe to toe with the Nazis.We just didn't have the disposable manpower.
As always your points are well taken.
Stand at ease.
jim
I remember reading an story from an allied officer in France, 1944:
He had noticed a German officer standing at a POW holding point.
Thinking to have some fun, he walked up to the German and asked him "If you are a member of the superior race, how come you and not I are standing there as a prisoner.
The officer explained that he had been commanding an anti-tank gun position covering a road. "Every time you sent a tank down the road, I knocked it out. Eventually, I ran out of ammunition and you did not run out of tanks".
Pretty much sums up the western front.
Jim - You're right about Brinkley. Normally I like to listen to him, but on that show he kinda tripped all over himself.
Stephen Ambrose was about the best historian on WWII and other matters. Brinkley is not in the same league.
Eric Hammel is a good military historian as well, and when it comes to Bush's Criminal Oil War, nobody can top Bing West.
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