Band of Brats
The enemy owns the terrain--FOX news report on Afghanistan
(h/t This Fucking War)
What can you do?
What can you do?
With a brat like this always on your back
--Beat the Brat, The Ramones
We happy, we few, we band of brothers
--Henry V, (IV, iii)
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Our previous post concerned Ranger's Jump School days and his transfer immediately thereafter to Jumpmaster school. He is not alone in this progression, but there is an online group, SOCNET.com, billing themselves "The Special Operations Community Network," which has been a thorn in Ranger's side from the start, and which questions the validity of this progression.
What once was a proud Band of Brothers has devolved with SOCNET into a Band of Brats.
Kirk -- leader of the Socnet.com hogsheads due to his more capable verbal skills -- has never seen fit to retract the baseless accusations made on their site against Ranger's credibility (nor has he bothered to file a Stolen Valor complaint, as that is what his band is alleging.) In addition, not one SOCNUT has accepted Ranger's offer to meet at the Ranger Training Brigade to verify my status.
All bark, no bite, the SOCNET dogs happily while away their days yipping and nipping at the heels of their chosen opponent, incapable are they of engaging in reasoned dialogue, the right to which they supposedly fought for.
They will attack, but they will not retract their errors. These brats are only interested in herd-like feeding frenzies devoid of reality-based considerations. They act out like children, vying for pats on the head by ringmaster Kirk. Their tabs and scrolls cannot cover their moral cowardice.
If these guys represent the Special Operations community, then we're sucking the big one.
Labels: band of brats, band of brothers, kirk, Ranger accusations, SOC lies, socnet, SOCNET hogsheads, socnet.com
posted by rangeragainstwar at 12:35 PM
23 Comments:
Ranger,
That outfit reminds me of a high-school gang -- the tough-guy posing, the name calling, and the way they kowtow to their leader.
Don't let them get you down.
Ranger Brother,
They think they represent the community. I got kicked off a few years back when some Delta Weenie Intel Goober threatened to pick up his toys and go home. The Goober threatened my life...It took me all of five minutes to find out about his "Hero Status". Other dudes there Like Greenass and my old pal Ma wait out the statue of limitations gician hide (or excuse "retired") to Southeast Asia because they could not get laid or get a real job in the land of their birth and chose to snark from afar...I could go on but I digress At it's worst SOCNET was a bunch of jerks who beat their chest, made all those bow before them to honor prior service, and while they claim to be enlightened men they did not tolerate dissent and are an echo chamber of yes men. I came out against the Iraq War months before it started and to men like Lead Bullet I was a huge liability because of my Real Deal past... So when I decided to vote for John Kerry the shit hit the fan for me in Socnetland and they have an exclusive thing called "The Team Room" which is hidden from the main site and is an invite only must be Real Deal Qualed Chat Room/Forum. The Poor Dears threw hissey fits because of my "treachery" (known in the real world as a rational mind :) )...Where I come from calling a spade a spade and telling the truth was a requirement to be a Real Deal. Not so in Socnetland and the Team Room and so When I called out a few legends in their own minds they did what any high school clique would do...They voted me off the Island "BANNED FOR LIFE" ha ha ha...This repercussion carried over to some other SOC Sites Where Rangers could not believe I could be against the Iraq War and think Bush the worst President in Modern History...Well I hate to say it but EVERYTHING I spoke up about has come true Most of the Chickens have now come home to roost to the point that the SOCNET Admins have to warn people not to display their racist hatred for Obama out in the open (Good PR move but only God Knows what a dumbass like Lead Bullet spews in the Team Room).
On a good note like life SOCNET does represent a good cross section of the community and 90% of all the REAL DEALS,LEGS, and CIVVIES who post there are really great human beings...So my friend Although there may be too many rotten apples at the top of the barrel for the most part SOCNET is not any worse than any where else on the net and some of those dudes are good friends whom I never would have met without being SOCNET Dude...Hell those guys raise money for wounded warriors and do A TON of other good works... And ss long as Newbs are respectful it's a good place from them to learn a little bit too about the SO way of life...Someday the Bozos who bully those that are not in lockstep with their opinions along with the crooks who hide behind their past glories will enjoy choking on the fruits of their labors and life in all it's wisdom will deal with them... Hopefully the ones who take their places will not treat such great men like sycophant whores who need to kowtow to some mythical fascist ideal of the Super Warrior or be banished from Valhalla or... In the words of the immortal Dubya...If you're not foh freeedum (aka me) then your with tha teeeeeroriiists (aka anyone who does not agree with me)
Thank God for your Blog Ranger...You in my mind are a true citizen who speaks truth to power and tells the truth to other Rangers the way our Ranger Ancestors were taught. I would have been honored to serve with you, and I am sure you're the kind of Ranger Pat Tillman and other independent minded Rangers would have loved to share a chew and a cup of Joe with....Keep Fighting the Good Fight...I got your six.
William Ranger Hazen
typical Republican tactic.... if they cannot substantively argue their case and disagree with your argument they just try to discredit you.... it has recently been designated with the term "swift boating", however the tactic has been around for years..... simply refined by Republican political operatives to include calculations for a lie to have a half-life just a long enough to ride ahead of the news cycle, so that by the time the lie is discredited it doesn't matter anymore.... the damage is already done.
the majority of the Officer and NCO Corp has been, for the last 20 years, pretty much Republicanised, which means they also have a propensity to follow the village idiot.
just sayin'
GD,
Not only are these soldiers conservative but there are serious indicators that the services are slap loaded with CHRISTIAN values.
Heaven help us.
For you to make a written comment indicates to me that this topic touches you somehow.Swiftboating is actually a hoot,imagine attacking Kerry's Silver Star and PH's while defending GWB's NG service. I know that NG service is valuable to America BUT Bush was riding the system to avoid active service and combat duty.
I always wonder why nobody ever looked up or published Bush's finance records to prove /disprove his service as legit and fulfilled.
He like I could publish his doc's IF he were real deal. But really the bottom line is- Mexico didn't attack us.
jim
This one may or may not have any relevance here,
me being a cannon-cocker--but a damn good one--and all.
Lined up to get off a plane not too long ago, a pilot riding on his free pass, was in front of me.
He put his flight case down onthe toe fo my cowboy boot.
When he turned to move it, never apologizing, I spotted one of those "I Am Great "Patches on it.
So , I say, "What's that patch about?"
He puffs up, says , rather loudly, I mihgt add, since I was only about 2 feet from him:
THAT'S THE INSIGNIA FOR MY SPECIAL OPERATIONS GROUP IN VIETNAM."
"Oh," I say, "What year?"
"1973" he practically yells."
He's got everybody's attention now.
"Well, shit", I reply, "Wasn't the war OVER by then?"
From his look, I was glad I wasn't flying my next leg on his plane.
Deryle
Deryle
Oh Deryle, you rabble-rouser, you :)
Them what was in the 73-75 time range are esp. sensitive about these things. . .
Deryl,
I gave my macsog plaque to my daughter and it resides under a bed.
I never did much like being in a unit symbolized by a deathshead type skull. I always thought that the skull was grinning, oh yeah, the blood dripping from the mouth is real coooool.IMHO , if I were CinC all deaths heads would be abolished, the Navy and Air Force seem to like them.Strange when you figure we fought the SS to a unconditional surrender and now we use their symbol. WTF?
The word Spec ops grp usually denotes a phony. That word was used very little in the 60s/early 70s.
jim
jim
RHuskra,
Followup on the blog and tell the whole story. Lets see how fair minded you are on this issue. We'll be watching.
Regards,
Retired 29 year (Title 10)SF/Ranger NCO and Officer.
Subject: SOCNET Update
To: jim@rangeragainstwar.com
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 4:18 AM
Mr. Hruska,
Please find attached:
* an FOIA recently done on you;
* and your RS Class Graduation Roster for Class 7-69.
I'd suggest you post these on the certs section of your blog and how they came into your hands to avoid any further questioning of your RS Tab. For the whole story, go here:
http://www.socnet.com/showpost.php?p=1203251&postcount=84
The problem was you don't have a Green Card on file (I had mine pulled which was quite a blast from the past), you're not on the computer and your roster was stored separately for some reason away from all others. Thats why our mutiple checks turned up nothing. It took an hour for one of our vetted members to actually do a personal hand search of all records at RTB. I assume now that your class roster is being kept with all the rest.
I hope this note finds you well and you're just as happy as I am that at least on the Ranger School side, it's all cleared up. Someone may still look into the SF side of things, but it's unlikely (and it won't be me). I simply don't have to contacts to do it effectively and there's enough Ranger posers out there to keep me busy.
Again Sir, I invite you to register on SOCNET. However, if you do, to avoid the whole Tabbed vs Scrolled argument, I'd not use Ranger in your chosen user name.
It is actually board policy that 'Ranger' is reserved for those that are or were in an actual Ranger unit.
Regards,
-Michael Kirk
Anon Sep 22
Please note that the Ranger association accepts tabbed Rangers as members contrary to SOCNET proclamations to the contrary.
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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:32 PM
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jim@rangeragainstwar.com
MK,
Pls note below that the Ranger association doesn't embrace your narrow definitin of Ranger.
Please dip me in muleshit if it doesn't say-all rangers that have earned the ranger tab. Tell that to your Rgt cdr.
hruska
The UNITED STATES ARMY RANGER ASSOCIATION (USARA) is recruiting veteran Rangers to lend support to active-duty Rangers. Any Ranger knows that once a Ranger, always a Ranger. As a Ranger veteran, each of us is in a position to share our experiences and show our support and pride in the active duty Rangers both in the United States and those fighting for our Nation in such places as Afghanistan and Iraq. Remember Rangers, "Rangers Lead the Way!!"
The purpose of the United States Army Ranger Association (USARA) is to promote and preserve the heritage, spirit, image and service of U.S. Army Rangers. The USARA accomplishes this by;
* Support and promote the events, programs and activities of Ranger units and recognized Ranger associations.
* Provide activities, social events, services, programs and other fellowship opportunities for USARA members, their families and the entire Ranger Community.
* Provide financial support for Ranger programs, memorial activities and special events and encourage individual financial assistance by USARA members.
* Recognize the unselfish contributions by Ranger families, relatives and supporters and encourage their continued support.
* Honor the service, courage and sacrifices made by active duty U.S. Army Rangers.
* Cherish and preserve the spirit of what it means to be a U.S. Army Ranger.
* Engage in lawful business as a not-for-profit corporation in the State of Georgia.
In addition to this website, USARA publishes a quarterly newsletter, The Ranger Register. USARA conducts national and regional events, with the Annual Ranger Muster being the highlight of the year.
The USARA works closely with the 75th Ranger Regiment and the Ranger Training Brigade in order to give meaningful support to the active duty Rangers. USARA cooperates with the Ranger Veteran associations of the Ranger Battalions of WWII, Merrill's Marauders, the Ranger Infantry Companies (Airborne) of the Korean War, the LRRP, LRP, Rangers, and Ranger Advisors of the Vietnam War, and other recognized Special Operations associations.
Who is eligible for membership?
We welcome all Rangers that have earned the U.S. Army Ranger tab, WWII Rangers, Korean War Rangers, Vietnam War Rangers, all Rangers that participated in Operations Urgent Fury, Just Cause, Desert Storm, Restore Hope, Enduring Freedom, and all Rangers who have served honorably for at least one year in a recognized Ranger unit.
Anon 22 sep,
Did this help?
I was a instructor in the Ranger Dept and posted my OER's, were we there at the same time frame.?
I was in Patrolling Committee.
I get confused b/c as a Ranger my brain is often challenged by deep concepts BUT SOCNET claims that i'm not a Ranger even tho i earned a winter Ranger tab. That's their policy, well golly gee i'm impressed with their elitism. Let's ban Colin Powell from the ranks of pure blooded Rangers. But there's a problem b/c the Ranger Association and more importantly the Army says otherwise. The tab on my shoulder makes me a Ranger.
jim hruska.
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michael-a-kirk@hotmail.co
MK,
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The Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C. § 552a, establishes a code of fair information practice that governs the collection, maintenance, use, and dissemination of personally identifiable information about individuals that is maintained in systems of records by federal agencies. A system of records is a group of records under the control of an agency from which information is retrieved by the name of the individual or by some identifier assigned to the individual. The Privacy Act requires that agencies give the public notice of their systems of records by publication in the Federal Register. The Privacy Act prohibits the disclosure of information from a system of records absent the written consent of the subject individual, unless the disclosure is pursuant to one of twelve statutory exceptions. The Act also provides individuals with a means by which to seek access to and amendment of their records, and sets forth various agency record-keeping requirements.
Michael,
I will go to Benning next week to personally file an IG grievance that the RTB is violating privacy rights by releasing info to your agents. I will also see the RTB CDR about this violation that appears to be policy.
I think we've entered into a legal problem here. Your actions have left the RTB in a rather awkward position.
I retract my statement-I will write about all of this on the blog. It's rather illustrative of long term violation of FOUO information being freely passed to SOCNET by Ranger TB personnel.
jim hruska
Jim,
Good call dude...
FYI there are active duty folks (including if memory serves me correctly... Two Field Grade Officers) in the Team Room on SOCNET who as you've described it in your post to Ranger Kirk knowingly violate The Privacy Act of 1974, 5 U.S.C. § 552a...When they Look up/Vet dudes on the site...
Part of the so called "clout" is the ability for Team Room members to employ "information gathering" methods outside the normal chain of command and the UCMJ...when doing favors for folks...
Just like any other Good. Old. Boy. Network.
Thanks for calling them on it and if I can be of any further assistance let me know. :)
Ranger Hazen
It would help if you know their names just for the record. If so send on back channel.
What is it with these yahoos, they think I should be thankful that they violated the privacy act.
jim
Will Do Jim...I have a "Team Room Alert Roster" the dumb asses gave me before they booted me.LOL The contact info is old but I'll bet it's the same cast of characters.
William Hazen
Edward,
Of course you are correct, and that is how it should be.
We are a nation of laws and order.
I devoted my life to this concept.
However the socnuts were not, and are not acting in any official capacity.
If you notice they never were official, and never went to file charges thru the FBI, in accordance with THE STOLEN VALOR ACT.
Thanks for writing,
HAPPY VETERANS DAY.
jim
Funny I was looking for something else when I came across this Blog. I remember Hazen from SOCNET and while he whines and cries about having been given the boot, which he earned, he goes on to talk about how many members of SOCNET and the Military, including Officers, violate the FOIA and UCMJ by gathering info on people through backdoor channels. If memory serves correctly when Hazen was a member of the boards he too had no problem with the methods and it is only AFTER his expulsion that he says so. He certainly never made mention of his dislike for the use of the method during his time on the boards and if I could remember specific names or posts I would go so far as to say he may have even requested phony checks himself.
Anon,jan 3/11,
i find it instructive that my commenters from socnet SELDOM use their names, but prefer to remain anonymous.
jim
Anon, jan 3/11,
Ranger Hazen is a welcome guest at this cite and is a friend.
If he was a socnet sinner in the past he has repented and a christian god forgives him.For absolution all he need do is recite the Ranger Creed five times.
jim
It has nothing to do with not wanting to be Anonymous but rather not wanting to have to register with yet another site.
Oh yes and it would be Christian God...
Anon,
you need not register at RAW.
the only requirement for entry is to show us your birth certificate.
jim
Mr too lazy to "register"... has his head up his ass in regard to my time poser busting on (and way before) SOCNET... I wrote the book on it and when I was a Team Room Plank holder I already had a few scalps on my belt LOOONG before the fat magician posted his poser busting sticky (It was I as a plank holder who got got him to join the site and stood up for him for membership into the team room. Though his "past reputation" as a honorable man remains LOL You gotta love Irony) All of my Poser busting was done through legal means (Such as F.O.I.A requests) and with the involvement of Military, Federal, and Local Law Enforcement when appropriate.Those are the facts and they are not in dispute.
It's been a looong while (Thank God!) Since I've wasted my time arguing with the Band of Brats. I am sure my history there has been re-written to extol the exploits of moral and ethical cowards who could not stand my constantly reminding them of the insane idiocy of their political views and their own self serving "Real Deal" narcissism...
The facts being what they are will not change one damn bit just because I am no longer there screw up their fun little circle jerk.
I find it very amusing that some lazy dude had to dig up an old post in a feeble attempt to refute me.It just may give you... Dear gentle reader... An idea of what kind of impact a Truth Sayer like me ( and more importantly Ranger Jim!!!) has in an echo chamber of yes men. :)
Speak the truth and get attacked ( most of the time anonymously) for it? Tell me and Jim something we don't know lazy dude! HA HA HA HA HA!
William Ranger Hazen (real name/no paid registration required)
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