Thursday, April 17, 2008

No Feed, No Breed

Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.

If a sperm is wasted,

God gets quite irate.

--Every Sperm is Sacred
, Monty Python

Awesome speech!

--George W. Bush to the Pope


Regarding Mr. Bush's gushing response, it is not quite Valley Girl, more at skateboarder / Orgeonian hipster. Perhaps mostly though, like the character Cartman on South Park. Sweet.

Pope Benedict XVI commented in his current U.S. tour on America's treatment of slaves and Native Americans.

Does this mean he is apologizing for The Inquisition and The Crusades? Let us throw The Dark Ages in, for good measure. (Having said that I hope he doesn't cancel my confirmation or graduation from R.C. high school.)

To our way of thinking, he ought to be apologizing for encouraging overbreeding among people who can't even feed their own offspring.

You may wear satin robes, Pope Benedict, but the majority of the rest of the world doesn't. You speak for the church and are not an expert on slavery and Native American issues in the U.S. The Spanish missionaries did not seem troubled by enslaving indigenous peoples in the name of god.

If you stay out of our government, we will stay out of your church.

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Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

it would have been nice if he had acknowledged that the scandals with priests molesting children is something that is worldwide. it has been happening in ireland (sinead o'conner was protesting the abuse of children by priests when she ripped up the picture of john paul 2), france, mexico, guatemala, venezuela, and just about every other country with a significant catholic population.

it's part and parcel of their corruption. it's so far inside the structure of their organization that i doubt it will ever be something that they fully deal with. i've heard some folks say that bush is far more catholic in his outlook and style than kennedy was.

(i gave up on benedict when he passed up the perfect chance to take the perfect name to follow john paul - - - pope george ringo would have been cool)

Thursday, April 17, 2008 at 9:51:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Lisa said...

"the perfect name to follow john paul - - - pope george ringo"

MB, you are a delightful scamp! To complete the Fab Four would've been way cool, even as an unofficial gesture. (We must remember: Ratzi is German, and humor is not their strong suit.)

Re. the scandals, I'm with Father Andrew Greeley and others who argue against the code of celibacy. It is simply biologically abnormal.

Aside from providing fodder for some racy novels and salacious gossip, it doesn't help anything, does it?

Thursday, April 17, 2008 at 10:21:00 PM GMT-5  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another smear Obama cartoon that doesn't help to make your point about the Pope. Why?
Kevin in Granville

Thursday, April 17, 2008 at 10:34:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Lisa said...


[1] Because it meets the timeliness criterion.

[2] Ditto relevancy (it compares the messages of two church leaders.)

[3] I am suspect of Obama's choice of Mr. Wright for mentor and spiritual leader for 20 years, and dismissing the man's rage from the pulpit and affiliation with Louis Farrakhan.

I am tired of the free pass. I don't like condescension, patronization and sidesteps. Unfortunately, politicians are skilled at the art.

The cartoonists are making a statement, as am I by running them. Freedom of expression on our blog, the same freedom you have, Kevin, to dissent.

God bless America, and I mean it on this one.

Thursday, April 17, 2008 at 11:13:00 PM GMT-5  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A smear is a smear, justify it how you will.
Kevin in Granville

Thursday, April 17, 2008 at 11:55:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Lisa said...


smear: a. To spread or daub with a sticky, greasy, or dirty substance; Vilification or slander.
b. A vilifying or slanderous remark.

I think Mr. Wright has done that to himself. Re. Obama: the jury is still out.

Friday, April 18, 2008 at 8:01:00 AM GMT-5  
Anonymous Labrys the Furious said...

I have been quite livid about the reverent coverage of the papal visit. He is "sorry" about sexual abuse?? Really? He SIGNED the letter back in the 60's that allowed parishioners complaining of abuse to be silenced by the threat of excommunication! He is being hailed as surprisingly "not" hardassed? Say what? His policies demand a subjugation of women on par with the shit recently uncovered at the Mormon compound in Texas.....shut up, girls, get preggers and LIKE it! He can take his silk-swathed patriarchal ass back to Rome and sit and spin on it!

Friday, April 18, 2008 at 11:19:00 AM GMT-5  
Anonymous mark said...

Right on, Lisa for standing up. Don't let Kevin and the other Obama bullies browbeat you. I am afraid the next eight years are going to be worse than the last. Obama's attack dogs have learned their lessons well from the Bushistas.

Friday, April 18, 2008 at 11:37:00 AM GMT-5  
Blogger Lisa said...

Thanks, Mark. I am entirely through with being badgered on this issue. I have many well-meaning friends among the beautiful people who seem very frustrated that I will not fall in line.

I am a liberal free thinker (oxymoron?), and as such I won't be bullied into swallowing anyone's image of nirvana.

I've seen enough politics to know no one gets this far by being lily white, not even obama.

Friday, April 18, 2008 at 12:49:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Lisa said...


Thank you for that important historical perspective. As always, I admire your restraint ;)

Friday, April 18, 2008 at 12:55:00 PM GMT-5  
Anonymous Publius said...

I was discussing the papal visit with my wife, the Catholic who rarely if ever goes to church, yesterday. She mentioned the priest molestation scandals and expressed her disgust at the fact that it took so long for various dioceses around the country to do anything about it, and that they had in fact covered it up. One of the main drivers behind her no longer entering their churches. The other major driver: you guessed it. Good American Catholic girl, pro-choice. She doesn't like abortion (who does?), but believes it should be available. And she doesn't view it as a sin.

I agreed with all of the above, and observed, "you know, your problem is you know your church is just a dictatorial top-down hierarchy run by a bunch of misogynistic old farts. Your value system as an American is totally inconsistent with your church's." She didn't disagree.

According to statistics I've seen, the Church is gaining ground in Africa and South America—the poor countries—but rapidly losing in the developed countries, especially western Europe. Americans are the hypocrites. They pay lip service , but their actions bely their professions of faith. Ours is the land of the twice yearly—Easter and Christmas—trek to church.

Americans have lost faith in their presidency and the government. Why should they retain any for the Easter Bunny, I mean Pope?

Friday, April 18, 2008 at 5:51:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger Lisa said...

Like George Orwell said, "one cannot really be a Catholic and grown up."

Not if one is informed and has access to goodies in life which make it more pleasant than the slog it is for 70% of the planet. Not unless one wishes to remain a hypocrite and believe in magic, which apparently a large part of our provincial country does.

See our 3/21 post for a lovely image of the Easter Bunny mindset in the U.S.

You make a good observation: faith has a tidal aspect. When it recedes in certain tenuously-formed areas (justice/equal treatment under the law/etc.), there is a pull back to more "certain" core beliefs. An atavistic tendency perhaps, to tribalism and so on. Maybe it is we never left. . .

Go Manchester United!!!

Friday, April 18, 2008 at 9:44:00 PM GMT-5  
Blogger rangeragainstwar said...

I don't go to church because i just don't beieve.If i don't believe that a Ranger tab will save you then it's clear that i'm one lost puppy. jim

Saturday, April 19, 2008 at 9:59:00 AM GMT-5  

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