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Tuesday, July 08, 2008

Better Living Through Science


We're Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell and Dean
Our job was to see that the White House stayed green
We might have had flaws, like bending the laws
But God only knows it was for a good cause
--Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell and Dean,
Bob Warren

The map is not the territory

--Alfred Korzybski

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In Mary Tillman's book about her son, Pat -- Boots on the Ground by Dusk -- Ranger noticed Tillman listed the Rules of Engagement (ROE), which she asserts were violated in the case of Pat Tillman's death and the subsequent cover-up. Among these:

You may . . .

  • Use non-lethal riot control agents
  • Detain civilians on target for intelligence exploitation
You must . . .
  • Positively identify (PID) your targets

The U.S.'s rules of engagement clearly allows Special Operations Forces to employ riot control agents. This would seem to contradict the rules of war which prohibit the use of such chemical agents.

Going off for a moment on the topic of chemical weapons: attacking Iraq for possessing chemical Weapons of Mass destruction it is somewhat hypocritical considering the huge stockpile of chemical and nuclear weapons possessed by the U.S. We want what we want, but Iran, North Korea and Iraq cannot have equivalent weapons. Is this because we are so measured in our martial actions?


It smacks of racism. A (still barely, predominantly) white Christian nation can have WMD, but rag heads and slope heads need not apply for admission to this club. At least not small, ineffective slopes or rags. Pakistan, India and China, well, that's o.k. Why? Ranger is still trying to tease that one out.


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Iran or North Korea ever going to employ a nuke? If they did, it would be equivalent to national suicide. More likely to pop a nuke would be India, Pakistan, China or the U.S., and not necessarily in that order. The money is on India or Pakistan.

Another ROE allows for the "detention of civilians on target for intelligence exploitation." A mouthful, for sure. "Civilians on target" actually means local indigenous personnel in or around their homes while living their daily lives in their own country, without asking for our invasion democracy. They can be detained, but hopefully they won't score a six-year detention, like the poor slobs at Gitmo.

The good news for us is that the ROE allow us to claim intelligence exploitation. However, after six years, it is just exploitation, and detained is another word for arrest. (The Geneva Conventions would allow a foreign army of invasion and occupation to detain citizens of the host nation if this were a real war, which this is not.) The U.S. military is not an international police force.

The U.S. Army was designed to fight wars against external threats to the survival of the U.S. That is why it is called the Department of Defense, not the Department of Presumptive Invasions. Detaining people for "intel exploitation" does not make the U.S. safer from a terror threat.

The safety of Afghanistan and Iraq is a separate issue, and Ranger for one is tired of his tax dollars being spent to nation-build phony nations in a phony war.

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Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

and make no mistake, the "governments" of maliki and karzai are shams. calling them governments insults the integrity of every legitimate, viable nation state.

for instance. if blackwater mercs slaughter folks at a market for any reason at all, can iraqi forces arrest and detain them? no.

if a blackwater merc gets drunk and shoots a foreign contractor in the green zone is he liable to any laws of any land? no.

if the iraqi parliament and president ask blackwater to leave will it have any force of law or authority? no.

if the iraqi president asks for a rational and reasonable timeline for the withdrawal of foriegn troops from his territory does he have a reasonable expectation that his requests will be honored? no.

if the afghani president seeks redress for the wedding party that was bombed by an admitted mistake will he have any rational hope of that being accomlished? no.

does the afghani economy have any rational expectation of self sufficiency in the next twenty years? yeah, right, sure. if every nation suddenly relaxes their laws against opium products and hashish (and their hashish is the bomb, they've been perfecting those techniques since before alexander the great). sorry though, the best opium still comes off the shan plateau in burma.

i tend to take an old grunt's perspective on the chemical agents. before the rules of engagement were relaxed the tunnel complexes in vietnam had to be explored by a kid who stripped down and greased up and took a sawed off 12 in one hand, a .45 in the other, and usually a knife in the teeth just in case and crawl down into those bug, snake, spider, rat, and all other manner of vermin infested shitholes to eyeball the layout.

it was the absolute suckest duty on the planet. smaller guys like myself ended up pulling way more than our share of those trips.

when we quit "exploring" and simply started pumping them full of CS and a touch of mustard for flavor i liked it just fine. not the most moral stand i know. still don't care.

Wednesday, July 9, 2008 at 1:02:00 AM EST  
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Wednesday, July 9, 2008 at 10:15:00 AM EST  
Blogger The Minstrel Boy said...

re: the tillman case. they lied, they lied some more, they lied about lying. there is probably never going to be anything close to resembling the truth.

one of the saddest things about our political situation is that there could easily be an armchair or keyboard warrior in some unmarked office in the halls of the white house or the pentagon who muses about how much better press it would be for them all if the literate, eloquent, famous, passionate poster boy who was beginning to speak his truth about the insanities and corruptions he saw around him every day were to become a dead hero.

the speed with which the fabricated stories hit the press and the airwaves might lead the more paranoid among us to wonder if it wasn't lying near the top of someone's "out" box. . .

i still have sun devil, and cardinal jerseys with patt's number on the back. they are prized.

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Blogger Lisa said...

MB,

Tillman told one of his friends, if they kill me, they will probably try and use me as a poster boy.

Unfortunately, he thought he was in America, where you can voice dissent, and say things like, "This war is f*%cking illegal." Perhaps he suspected otherwise.

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